Neocities.org
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vas
6 years ago
I can't lie man, idiots helping Nazis look powerful cause they're too dumb to write a proper article really gets under my skin.
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vas
6 years ago
I'm only saying this because white nationalist subreddits literally used the WSJ as evidence for how big and mighty they are. I'm not making it up, stupid American liberals are giving power to genocidal racists.
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ake
6 years ago
"own communities and own search engines with our own content" Won't they be valuable only for their inhabitants. I've seen old forums with strong community where original content was defeated by discussions about community itself. Less audience, less content, less newcomers, less feedback.
vas
6 years ago
If you post on a forum, you don't own your content; the forum mods do. It's functionally no different than Facebook, except the censorship is cause mods woke up on the wrong side of the bed today instead of conspiring with Merkel and Hillary for voters.
ake
6 years ago
My comment wasn't about regulation at all but rather about self-regulation - if people doesn't feel that they'll be heard, they're silent. Also isn't this "good web" infrastructure going to be controlled by people (which aren't ideal and have the same vices)?
vas
6 years ago
That's why it'll be the "internet" of the 1%, for the people who have something to say, and must scream, even at the void. Most people won't know or care to do it, and they can stay on Instagram to share their stupid #brunch. Our new infrastructure will evolve from Freenet/GNUNet/IPFS/etc. It'll be imperfect, but far more resilient to censorship (including self-censorship) than the Facebook Reich.
You'll probably like this given your "rambling" https://indieweb.org/wiki It's more about dynamic sites than static ones but they express some of the same woes. If you can't quit social media you might consider using POSSE to cross post. The wiki describes the theory behind it. (I personally just deleted my Tumblr and other accounts)
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goodmode
6 years ago
Thanks! I'm giving it a thorough look-over and this wiki seems to detail the stuff I've been thinking for a while now. I'm happy to quit social media slowly/in my own way, but there's a lot here and it looks like I have some reading material 🤘
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vas
6 years ago
Have fun. It links to many example websites too, and it was a great inspiration for finally having my own site.
strata
6 years ago
I love the IndieWeb concepts, but sadly, its technical aspects are fragmented and unstable as fuck. You could either use half-broken WordPress plugins or spend weeks implementing all the stuff on your own.
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vas
6 years ago
Or just build your nice neocities page, stick some RSS/Atom on it, and call it a day.
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strata
6 years ago
Mastodon is great, even better than Twitter in most aspects and you can set up Twidere to use it.
vas
6 years ago
I mean, okay, the UI and the protocol are obviously 10000X better because nothing is worse than Silicon Valley garbage. But my site already has a microblog and it's quite okay IMO. I'm not sure if it makes sense to sign up for a social network when what I have works fine? If it's just for people getting in touch, email works fine, I think. I dunno. I'm weird.
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strata
6 years ago
Tried to run that tool, but I keep getting loops of, well... https://i.imgur.com/XEb5oKS.png
Get well, Vas-chan! (◠‿◠✿)