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if i missed something or got something wrong please lmk, but hopefully this is comprehensive enough to a) show dreamie was scummy b) help folks recognize scummy beings often have similar behavior patterns and c) be an easy link for the next time someone asks what happened

Unfortunately, it's a lot of things- Dreamie accused us (as in, our system) of telling her to off herself in a server were nobody did such a thing AFAIK.

All this to say, I sure don't blame you if you missed something lol

i'm so sorry dreamie smeared you all like that ):

thanks for the writeup! was an..interesting read. i considered following tumor before, but i saw them vagueposting about the oldweb/blocking thing and was instantly turned off bc it was just extremely aggressive and weird to me lol

It's okay, we're not afraid of her and TBH our experience is but a drop in an ocean- we're mostly worried about the way she engaged with minors and how manipulative she was towards them.

i also considered following tumor until i looked at it's bio and had that "...waiminnit" moment lol. you dodged a bullet and i'm glad for that. "aggressive and weird" is a good description

thank you so much for speaking your piece on this. i had to leave her webring bc she was telling doko to off themselves while claiming that "it's her job to protect minors" and after giving my reason, she was like "lol ok have fun supporting pedophiles!" it wasn't fun. :\

i'm glad you're not afraid! i agree though, it looks like coddling up to minors to basically use them as pawns is part of it's usual modus operandi and it's disconcerting

oh dear. i was one of the ppl it vagued about when it was talking about "removing ppl for engaging with lolcows." oh lord, i'm so sorry to hear dreamie was harassing you as well. ugh i can't stand the p word being thrown around so casually and reasonable ppl like you being treated so badly

*it, apologies for using she/her pronouns. i saw those pronouns mentioned in its bio, so i thought it'd be ok,,,

since i'm not dreamie i can't speak for how it would take being referred to as she (i don't mean this in a catty or sarcastic way) but i know for the longest time it used she as well. technically i'm incorrect with it but after hours of it i'm on autopilot ;w;

afaik the current correct pronouns for dreamie would be rot, and bc dreamie had so many pronouns and switched them so frequently i don't think anybody here was purposefully trying to misgender. we a little confused but frankly look at the material we were referencing

nice

i forgot to say before, but if you want your experience removed i'd understand, or on the flipside if you wanted to be named for the sake of your hurt being acknowledged i'd also understand and can edit the post accordingly

👏👏 thank you for your service. tbh I had no idea about this manipulating minors thing, have been too short here to be aware of everything. for me it's the most vile thing it dreamie has done. i agree that faking minority status & weaponizing it is absolutely low, but srsly, it sounds like borderline grooming behaviour. hopefully dreamie will stay gone or at least won't get as much attention as used to before

and for minors here, please, stay alert around weird adults online, no matter how cool they may be at first sight. they're not your friends, don't confide in them, because they can turn out to be manipulative or outright abusive towards you

thank you for the write up on everything!!

oh no, it's absolutely grooming behavior. then dreamie would turn around and accuse others of the grooming. dreamie chill out and get a life challenge. for the kiddos, adults can be kind and even friendly, but something is probably wrong if they're saying they're the only one you can trust and others are evil and etc. watch for red flags

this also wouldn't be a popcorn.gif for funsies dramafest, like a legit "here's what happened, it sucked, if dreamie returns let's ignore it" sorta deal

ngl im kinda curious.

Honestly it might be good to if nothing else teach kids using neocities to stop blindly following every weird adult they see online.

that's a really good point. in my research on the situation (past what i personally witnessed) it turns out dreamie had an almost modus operandie of befriending minors then playing on their sympathies to have them defend it

this is taking longer to write than i thought it would bc there is even more to sort and process here than i was initially aware of and i'm struggling to lay down the facts without it being too callout post-y

also struggling to not give any Opinions lmao

https://neocities-users.dreamwidth.org/1289.html

what is this tumor yall r talking abt

that one got super passive aggressive with me, had at least four websites i can think off the top of my head, was found to be liar several times, and couldn't go ANYWHERE without any drama, frankly abused the timeline feature... i usually only post about coding/web dev but honestly i genuinely think this subject is relevant and that it's good for the nc community as a whole that lullabye/starbit/strawbabie/tumor left

@random a very toxic user notorious for drama

i was hoping someone'd make this joke, srsly

sorry to be a hater fam but i am personally popping bottles lol

literally from the tos: You understand that information available to you through Neocities may include materials that are unedited, sexually explicit or offensive to you and that your access to such materials is at your own risk. Neocities and its affiliates hereby disclaim any responsibility for or control over such materials.

they DO have anti harassment, threat, and harm to minors clauses, but another user linking your website even if they're a proshipper or part of a cult or w/e doesn't count

a user you don't like linking your site: not harassment. someone in particular leaving several nasty messages on your profile feed: harassment. i can give more examples as necessary

another example is i didn't like seeing the a blinkie that says "i h8 r slur" on someone's site, but like. i can't really do much about it except click the x on my browser and otherwise ignore that site. because it's on their site neocities wouldn't consider it harassment or threatening so they won't do anything about it either

When people say "this is my private website" it kind of makes me laugh because no. Neocities is not private. Even if you password protect your website. There is no backend support for neocities if you want a private website don't publish it onto the internet.

the vast majority of the net is not private and i don't know how we got to where ppl aren't aware of it lol

just found out about this and man it looks like one person’s attempt to benefit from vulnerable or gullible people just based on what’s on the faq.

i agree

This reeks of a high control group seeking out mentally ill people to exploit in exchange for ""community"" >:|

absolutely. incredibly predatory. i wouldn't even say a group but one person doing the exploiting