the thing is, it doesn't matter if you find alternatives to every website you use. people with more money than you are personally invested in making sure EVERY site on the internet uses generative AI in some way...
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the corporate feudal state has literal billions dumped into this failing technology and they're currently trying to gaslight regular people into thinking it's not only working but it'll solve every problem ever...
ive got mutuals here who have switched over to nekoweb to get away from generative AI but at this point the only place you can run to get away from AI at all is gopherspace. since half of us are using linux now, that might not be too much of a problem...
but trying to run away from AI anywhere on the HTTP web is futile. it doesn't matter how much against AI a webhost claims to be, eventually they will end up implementing some kind of AI, either to stay current or to solve a problem that they can't afford to hire someone to solve.
I'm still going to be here and talk to people, I just am not using neocities as a webhost because now that I understand what happened and whats still there I feel a moral obligation to do something.
it feels very similar to me to when sites had to use web 2.0 integration to keep up & when we had to switch to smartphones with location services to keep up. not ideal, but i agree there isn't really much we can do if people with money want to use LLMs and the like to make more money. although since NFTs are no longer popular, i like to believe there is a certain threshold of stupidity the general public won't cross
@tower-falls i feel like there's a connection between the fall of NFT and the rise of AI, inasmuch as giant corporations were just starting to adopt NFT when it imploded. now they're committed to not making themselves out to be fools a second time.
@aubery Neocities was A/B testing an AI-based analytics engine called "Penelope" a couple months ago, and now KD wants to implement it across the whole site.
It's just so disappointing to see that become more of a reality. Like, I came here specifically to get away from the AI garbage on the other sites I was using. Like, what the hell?
Is there any official statement on this from him? Did our websites get scraped to train the suggestion bot? Maybe we could create a petition and kindly ask to Not do AI or lose the core userbase? I pay so i can create a sidesite for that
the corporate feudal state has literal billions dumped into this failing technology and they're currently trying to gaslight regular people into thinking it's not only working but it'll solve every problem ever...
ive got mutuals here who have switched over to nekoweb to get away from generative AI but at this point the only place you can run to get away from AI at all is gopherspace. since half of us are using linux now, that might not be too much of a problem...
but trying to run away from AI anywhere on the HTTP web is futile. it doesn't matter how much against AI a webhost claims to be, eventually they will end up implementing some kind of AI, either to stay current or to solve a problem that they can't afford to hire someone to solve.
I'm still going to be here and talk to people, I just am not using neocities as a webhost because now that I understand what happened and whats still there I feel a moral obligation to do something.
Kyle has stated that the coding assistant idea is only on hold. It's not at all ruled out he will add it back at some point
If neko web does this too I will straight up self host a webserver and webhost for friends
it feels very similar to me to when sites had to use web 2.0 integration to keep up & when we had to switch to smartphones with location services to keep up. not ideal, but i agree there isn't really much we can do if people with money want to use LLMs and the like to make more money. although since NFTs are no longer popular, i like to believe there is a certain threshold of stupidity the general public won't cross
wait, what now??
@tower-falls i feel like there's a connection between the fall of NFT and the rise of AI, inasmuch as giant corporations were just starting to adopt NFT when it imploded. now they're committed to not making themselves out to be fools a second time.
@aubery Neocities was A/B testing an AI-based analytics engine called "Penelope" a couple months ago, and now KD wants to implement it across the whole site.
It's just so disappointing to see that become more of a reality. Like, I came here specifically to get away from the AI garbage on the other sites I was using. Like, what the hell?
Is there any official statement on this from him? Did our websites get scraped to train the suggestion bot? Maybe we could create a petition and kindly ask to Not do AI or lose the core userbase? I pay so i can create a sidesite for that
I already made a petition about it if you want to sign! It is at the bottom of this blog post and my home page https://gremlin.nekoweb.org/blog/10-15-24