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projectc190 3 months ago

i like these ill be looking forward to them daily : D

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daliwali 3 months ago

i've read Pale Fire too, how Shade was assassinated reminds me of one Mario brother. how are you so well read?

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iwillneverbehappy 3 months ago

@hui Thank you so much! @daliwali I spend my time very irresponsibly...

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asgooffeeasme 3 months ago

what a coincidence. No long ago, I was also reading about how mentally rotating 3D shapes might be useful in mathematics and, then, I started trying to rotate my bed while I was lying down. Indeed, very interesting!

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iwillneverbehappy 3 months ago

That's indeed a great coincidence, thank you for sharing :)

responding a little late re: rote learning. a lot of the people in the classical chinese study discord i'm in, especially the ones that are most generally knowledgable, often post pictures of long texts they've copied, all with very careful and neat handwriting. i think copying, especially by hand, is very much a comprehensive learning method: you're not necessarily conscious of all the things you learn doing it
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saddleblasters 3 months ago

copying is essentially a very slow kind of reading. back when the literary language was often very different from the spoken language, comprehension wasn't some immediate thing that could be taken for granted. even the surface grammatical meaning of a sentence might not be obvious. struggling with all of that leads not just to the thoughts the author intended, but all sorts of other alternate possibilities

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saddleblasters 3 months ago

the same thing happens when i read mathematics (esp. research papers). for close readings, you treat the written proofs as a "cookbook recipe" for reproducing the argument in your own brain. often there are steps that are unclear at first and which require deep thought, but in the course of trying to understand those, you learn other things the author perhaps didn't intend, or didn't find worth writing

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saddleblasters 3 months ago

e.g. many of the developments in algebraic geometry up to the 80s or so could essentially be characterized as ideas people had while reading EGA and SGA.

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saddleblasters 3 months ago

I guess what I'm trying to say is simply that reading is a much slower and more complicated process than we might give it credit for, so rote methods of learning like copying and memorizing are ways to trick ourselves into slowing. of course this only works when one is doing it willingly. when forced to memorize or copy by a teacher, many people manage to learn to do so without actually paying attention to the text

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saddleblasters 3 months ago

(sorry for writing so much -- in retrospect this probably should have been an email...)

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saddleblasters 3 months ago

Also, rereading these now, I realize I was basically doing some version of "redoing" by writing these: taking the ideas you wrote about and reworking them into my own words. I guess this is the particular sort of "copying" that a modern university education generally trains it's students with (as you noted with your reference to "the last few hundred years of scholasticism")

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iwillneverbehappy 3 months ago

Thank you for the thoughtful comments and no need to apologize, these are all great. What is interesting to me is how pointless (close) reading is if you don't apply yourself to it 100%, yet how useful it is in learning something. And there's no external way to tell the two apart; it's even difficult for the learner themselves to tell if they are in fact learning something. The "inefficiency" of rote learning (1/2)

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iwillneverbehappy 3 months ago

and how easy it is to make it an utter waste of time, plus the fact that the yields aren't immediate or quantifiable, might all be part of the reason why it's looked at so negatively in American schools nowadays, but we lose a lot if we banish it entirely. (2/2)

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daliwali 4 months ago

๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ "This week I bought and used stamps for the first time in my life." this is a whole genre of zoomer content discovering the real world for the first time

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bmh 4 months ago

Ok, but did you have to lick them? If not, then you're still missing out ;)

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projectc190 4 months ago

my math professors are the same way

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iwillneverbehappy 4 months ago

@daliwali Yes, I was standing in the post office feeling ridiculous haha. and @bmh, I think I'm still missing out! The ones I got were festive, though. @hui I wish I could be an anthropologist who observes math professors in their lectures across the world.

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bmh 4 months ago

...this will involve a lot of tweed, I think.

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iwillneverbehappy 4 months ago

Added poem(s): "It has been calculated that each copy of the Gutenberg Bible. . .required the skins of 300 sheep."

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iwillneverbehappy 4 months ago

"New" movie review that has been languishing on my laptop and which I have tried my best to resuscitate, so that it can finally take up less room in my head

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iwillneverbehappy 4 months ago

Sorry, I didn't mean to delete your comment, siqu! Shaking my first at Neocities UI... ah well. I wanted to thank you for the observation because for all my thinking about meditativeness and sustained attention being a part of this movie, I never thought to mention it explicitly, so I'm glad you did here.

iwillneverbehappy 4 months ago

Actually, I really like your comment because it makes me think of the movie as something almost alive, with intention. Via an obscure alchemy the whole ends up being greater than the sum of its parts. Or, so much is said with somehow so little

siqu 4 months ago

a human is only living when they are /being/, not doing -- so the movie may remind (as least surmised from your observations and additional comments here) -- thanks for sharing it (ยด๏ฝฅฯ‰๏ฝฅ`)

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i love klee's angels :) cool site!
iwillneverbehappy 4 months ago

Thanks! I used to follow you on Twitter. How happy I was to see you had a site on here with your art!

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